INTERVIEWS WITH PSYCHICS
by
David Bolton
SMASHWORDS EDITION
* * * * *
PUBLISHED BY:
David Bolton on Smashwords
Interviews with Psychics
Copyright 2011 by David Bolton
Smashwords Edition License Notes
This ebook is licensed for your personal enjoyment only. This ebook may not be re-sold or given away to other people. If you would like to share this book with another person, please purchase an additional copy for each person you share it with. If you're reading this book and did not purchase it, or it was not purchased for your use only, then you should return to Smashwords.com and purchase your own copy. Thank you for respecting the author's work.
* * * * *
Table of Contents
(Click on chapter to go there immediately)
Seven Psychics - My Sojourn in the Realm of Clairvoyance
Some definitions for key terms used in this book:
Psychic, clairvoyant (adjective): Sensitive to influences or forces of a nonphysical or supernatural nature; having second sight.
Psychic, clairvoyant (noun): a person who is sensitive to psychic influences or forces; medium; a person claiming to have the power to foretell future events.
Interviews with Psychics
After completing my book "Seven Psychics - My Sojourn in the Realm of Clairvoyance", I thought it might be interesting to converse with a few professional psychics, in order to ask them questions about their work, what it "feels like" to be psychic, and the like. I was not able to talk with the psychics dealt with in my book (with the exception of one: my sister, Ellen, an interview with whom will appear at a later date), for I no longer had any contact with those people. Indeed, at least one of them was already deceased.
Knowing that more often than not, supposed psychics are in fact fraudsters whose only goal is to cheat people out of their money, I was faced with a problem. How could I determine whether someone who claimed to be psychic really did have that gift?
I decided to proceed in the following manner:
First, I found a number of psychics on the Internet. I carefully avoided those "mass psychic" sites: the ones that say they have a whole team of psychics just waiting to answer your questions. Why did I not explore such sites further?
Well, I know for a fact that at least some of these sites offer consultations with people who are not psychic at all, but who have simply been trained to dupe people. I know this because I myself knew a young woman who was almost recruited by one of these sites. When she told the site owner that she was not really psychic, he said: "Don't worry about that. We'll tell you how you can respond to peoples' questions so that they think you are psychic."
I am not implying that all such sites are fraudulent. However, it seems very strange to me that a true psychic would opt to work through such a site, namely one that offers a whole group of psychics. A reputable psychic would, in my opinion, be much more likely to have his or her own site.
Not that having their own site is proof that they are truly psychic, mind you. That is another question altogether.
First, therefore, I examined a number of websites of psychics. I selected a few sites that did seem to be serious in nature. I then wrote to those psychics, and told them of my interview project. Some psychics were not interested, and did not respond. Could it be that they did not do so because I had written that I would like to test them a bit during the interview?
In any case, I did find a few who not only answered my email, but who were delighted to be able to converse about their specialty. And these people were not at all afraid of being "debunked", for they had confidence in what they do.
I did not request that each of them give me a full reading for myself, for that would have been asking too much, in my opinion. Nonetheless, each was glad to offer me some insights into my own life - indeed, they were happy to do so.
I won't go into what each of them said. Suffice it to say that I am convinced that the three individuals whose interviews you are about to read do indeed have exceptional intuitive/ clairvoyant/ psychic abilities.
Just one example here..:
My wife and I have been living in Japan for over two years now, though we would like to eventually return to Europe, and if at all possible, live in France. This is something that I had not told any of the psychics.
When I was speaking with Judy about something totally unrelated to myself, she suddenly remarked, quite "out of the blue". "You and your wife are going to live in Paris, France." This surprised me quite a bit, especially since it had nothing to do with the immediate topic we had been talking about. She then went on to describe a past life my wife and I had together in 18th century, pre-revolutionary France. Yet another "coincidence", since that period in French history has always had an unusual attraction for me.
Will we really live in France at some future time, or was Judy merely telepathically picking up certain thoughts of mine? Only time will tell, but I must say that even such small statements made by a psychic can really make you wonder!
Elaine refers to herself as an "intuitive reader", and a business coach. She does not see it as her goal to predict the future (although she in fact often does receive psychic impressions about what is going to happen); rather, she wishes to use her intuitive abilities to help others help themselves.
Sherri discovered her clairvoyance through classes she received from her teacher, Debra Katz. Sherri thus serves as an example of how sometimes, a "normal" person can, through meditation, and other techniques, awaken her own psychic ability. Or could it be that Sherri had always had psychic talents, though she wasn't fully aware of how strongly she had the "gift"? In any case, she has it now!
What most motivated me to do these interviews was my desire to learn what it is like to be psychic:
- How do these people pick up their visions?
- Is it a smooth, flowing process, or is high concentration, and even mental strain, necessary?
- What do the visions "look like"? Are they like daydreams, normal dreams, fantasies?
- How can a psychic be sure that what he/she is picking up is really true?
- Does it happen that a psychic is occasionally unable to pick up information about a client?
- What specialties do these psychics have?
- Are there questions that each of them would not answer if asked by a client?
These, and more, are the questions I put to the psychics I interviewed. Their answers were spontaneous, candid, and, I believe, very honest.
Any of you who have already read my book "Seven Psychics" will easily see how I myself, formerly a total skeptic in this area, came to believe firmly in the existence of psychic powers. "Interviews with Psychics", as well as "Seven Psychics - My Sojourn in the Realm of Clairvoyance" will, I hope, serve the purpose of showing people that yes, clairvoyance does exist, and that the evidence for it is strong enough to convince even a natural skeptic such as myself - assuming, of course, that one is willing to actually investigate the phenomenon, instead of merely brushing it off as a hoax, or as a series of unusual coincidences - attitudes all-too-common among many people today, whose eagerness to confirm their own personal beliefs and prejudices outweighs their desire to get to the truth.
In this book you will read the interviews I did with Judy Hevenly, Sherri Calosso, and Elaine Lockard. Because of my positive experiences with these ladies, I am gladly including their respective contact information at the end of each interview. No, I am not earning a "commission" on any business they receive through me. My purpose in publishing their contact info is not financial at all, but is merely the desire to help you, the reader, arrange a session with a truly talented psychic, should you choose to do so.
Should you wish to share experiences you've had with psychics, or if you feel that you yourself may be psychic, don't hesitate to post to my new blog: http://www.sevenpsychics.com/blog
David Bolton
Saginuma, Japan, May 12, 2011
David Bolton: Thank you for granting me this interview today, Judy. First of all, what are the most common questions that your clients ask you?
Judy Hevenly: Thank you for asking that question, David. Nowadays in America, it's jobs, jobs, jobs. And career, and health, and departed loved ones, and love relationships that people mostly want. It's like that in America. I don't know about other parts of the world. Here, they really want to know about people on the other side, for example.
DB: Ah, that's interesting. I don't know if I would want to know about people on the other side, because I figure life is short anyway. I can wait until I'm there!
JH: Well, you know they come in with a photo and say, "I must have a message from somebody on the other side." It's about somebody who's just passed over, and there are a lot of tears, and they want to know if that person still thinks of them, whether they can reach that person, and it's very important to them.
DB: I understand. In my case, it's not that I'm afraid, it's just that I think that maybe if you got messages from a person, you could dwell on it too much. Life is for the living, and the other realm, which is of course also life, has its own purpose. I can simply wait. Maybe twenty or thirty years ago, it would have interested me more.
JH: Well, you know, they just want a clue. One client asked me, "What is Dad thinking?" I said, "Well, you remember his shoes? He would never put them away. They were always just under the bed." The client replied: "That’s amazing you should mention his shoes! Because that's what he was like." And then they feel that they can connect. And I told her, "You can do it! You can sit in front of a photo and light a candle, and then just take a pen and use automatic handwriting, and listen carefully, and Dad, or Mom or anybody that you're trying to reach will give you a message."
DB: That's beautiful. I think especially because a lot of people who say they believe in life after death may have severe doubts at the same time. And I think that such contacts can give them the certainty that yes, there is life after death.
JH: That's so true! A great friend of mine, who lived in the White House, actually, when the Kennedys were there, a month ago passed away, and two weeks ago I went to speak to her housekeeper. You know, you're quite in shock when somebody you really love passes away. And that night I was saying, "Please let me know you're ok." And, just as I went to sleep, I saw her face vividly in front of me. And she looked very, very happy. Another time, I lost a pet. And what happens, David, is that your lost one's face comes at you with a big smile, whether it's an animal, or person. They're smiling at you, and they're happy. They don't necessarily say too much; they just come and comfort you.
DB: That is so interesting! My father died in 1978. He was only fifty years old. My mother is religious. She's very Catholic, but she's very down-to-earth as well. She's never had obvious mystical experiences. But she told me that the night my father died, she was trying to take a nap on the sofa, yet she couldn't get to sleep. And then she looked up and saw my father standing there, smiling. He didn't say a word, but he communicated to her, "Everything will be fine. Don't worry!" And that she experienced that! As I say, she doesn't have visions, hallucinations, or anything, she's very down-to-earth. But my father loved her so much, I know that if it were at all possible, he would do such a thing, and I do believe her when she says it happened. It reminds me of what you say with the smile...
JH: Oh, I absolutely agree. And I'm sure that made her feel so strong, and she could cope.
DB: Yes, I think that did help, because she was in shock; his death had come suddenly. They were both only about fifty years old at the time. But he was right. He worked at the waterfront and had a very good pension plan, and she's s been living on that ever since then, and has never had any financial problems, so it did work out well.
JH: And the mere fact that he came and told her everything would be all right, it's like... they never leave you, these people. They're around you in spirit. I have a little saying that I tell my clients. When you go outside and walk down the street, if you see a feather in the street, and you pick it up, that’s an angel around you. And if you find a coin, or a penny, that's also a loved one giving you a message that they are okay.
DB: That's really interesting. Recently, I read Plutarch's "Lives of the Noble Greeks and Romans". One thing that struck me about that was that in ancient times, people put so much faith in little signs. They'd see a flock of birds flying overhead at a certain time and that meant something or another. It could have been positive, or negative. But I noticed how much the people back then put their faith in very small things, like for example, the feather you mentioned, or the penny, whereas these days, we've lost contact to that.
JH: Yes, that's so true. And for example, a lot of clients are so exhausted by the computer, or business. One of the things that I tell them is "Take off your shoes. Walk on the grass. Feel the ground underneath you so that you can get those ions into yourself, because that will rebalance you."
DB: That's good! Well now, let me ask you this. Are there questions your clients might ask that you would refuse to answer?
JH: You know, I knew a very old lady, a client of mine, who would repeatedly ask me over to her very wealthy apartment in Los Angeles, and she would get me in to look at her husband, who was ninety years of age, and would ask me when he was leaving the planet. And I said "I can't do this!" I said it's not possible, ever, to tell when our life is over, because that is in the hands of God”.
DB: Right.
JH: Another question they always like to ask me is about divorce or separation. I never predict this at all, as this is not my job, as I always recommend to clients that when they have come to that stage that they wish to leave someone, it is up to them to make that decision and I am not responsible. I recommend that the client do everything possible at that stage to rectify the situation and if they feel in their heart that they have done their very best in that particular relationship, that they have a clear conscience should they decide to have a life without that person. Again I stress that is their responsibility as they have free will. I do also encourage the client to meditate and turn within and ask the higher power the right direction to go, for their God-self will never steer them wrong.
DB: That's very good; that's probably the way it should be done. There are different opinions about that, though. Some psychics will just say what comes into their minds, and they feel the universe won't give people too much to handle. I talked to one recently that thought that. I can understand that, too.
DB: Do you predict death?
JH: No I don’t, however if I feel that they could take better care of their health, I will suggest that they consult with their doctor or a nutritionist. How do you handle this question David?
DB: Exactly the same as you. With astrology, you cannot say when someone is going to die, and even if you could, it would hardly be ethical to do so. In general, I don't like to handle questions about health, since here are some astrologers who are also trained in medicine, and I feel that a client with health issues who wishes to have an astrological consultation about health should see one of those specialists instead of me.
Well now Judy, the next question is: Do you have different degrees of intuition, depending on the client?
JH: Well, for example, tomorrow I have a client coming in, and she's very, very young and she always feels very comfortable in my presence. So my intuition is really high with her, because she trusts me, and she understands the process of a psychic and the role that I'm going to play. She doesn't hurry me, so she allows me to sort of tune in to this intuitive force. She waits patiently until I give her the messages and relay the answers to questions she has asked me.
DB: Yes.
JH: But on the other hand, David, if I have a client sitting in front of me, and they're very suspicious, and very skeptical, I welcome that client, because it gives me an opportunity of saying, "Oh, dear God, please allow your divine information to come through." I remember a really devout Christian who was so scared: "Don't read any angel cards! No cards, nothing, just tell me! I shouldn't be here, because I'm a Christian, you know. I don't believe in that." At the end of the session, the young man had tears running down, and he said, "Absolutely everything you told me made sense." So I was glad he was so skeptical at first, so that I had to try harder, and the intuition didn't let me down, because it's not me, it's a gift. And when I always say, "Dear God, allow it to come through to me," it always works.
DB: So it's a passive sort of work, in a way. You open yourself up, relax, and the visions come.
JH: The visions, and also the audio voices are very important. It's like I am a different person, and it just streams out of me. It's very, very natural. It's like having an automatic conversation. And then when it's finished, people say, "How did you know this?" It's surprising to me as well, because I know it's not part of me, it's like I'm emptied out. The divine presence comes in, the Christ consciousness, and just gives these messages. And I also see pictures of people, too. And they come in, and you know how they look, or feel, or you have a vision.
DB: So do you go into a trance? Do you remember the things you say?
JH: No. And I don't always remember the things I say. I don't go into a trance. It's just like having an ordinary conversation. For instance, I'm looking at the person's hand, or I might use a few cards, or just sit there, and the information comes out. And then the client might say, "How would you know that?" It's just a knowingness.
DB: Now, suppose you're having a normal conversation like with me now, or with somebody else that you're not having an official session with. Does it happen to you that you suddenly have some kind of intuition about that person, or a picture even though you haven't put yourself into a state, or...
JH: Yes, yes, that's so true. You know, when I go out, it's not just my body walking on the street, it's my higher self taking over because it could be that God will lead me to a person in a supermarket, or wherever, just to say a word or something. I don't know why I'm doing it. And people will say to me years later, "You know, you came up to me, and you said that at the right time in my life, and it changed my direction." And I say, "It's not me. God uses me as an instrument."
DB: What impresses me most about that is that you're so accepting of it. I think a lot of people would be afraid if they felt led to certain people, and they didn't know why. It impresses me that you accept it, and realize there's a reason for it.
JH: Yes, I do.
DB: Well, now, do you ever have clients where you feel almost totally blocked, or where you simply don't have the visions, because with that specific person... I don't know, maybe they're projecting something that blocks you?
JH: Yes, sometimes with clients there's a lot of hostility that comes up. And what I try and do is take extra care with them because I just look at it this way, how wonderful they've come to me, because perhaps I can learn something from them! And I have, in my lifetime, found one or two people that were absolutely impossible to read. And I just told them, and expressed that maybe they should find another psychic. But I haven't really found that very often. I had one girl come to me that screamed and shouted, and went on and on, and was very, very hostile to me.
DB: Why would that be? If she came to you, why should she be hostile towards you? Because of the things you told her, or...
JH: No. She was a new client, and occasionally they'll feel that way. You know, sometimes clients are possessed. Or they haven't taken care of their health, and they're mentally imbalanced. I will say that a lot of mentally unstable people come to me. But sometimes I'm so proud of them. Two especially were absolutely disturbed, and today they are normal citizens. They still have bouts with that, but I feel I was able to help them, though compassion, but they were very hostile in the beginning. A couple of people I sent away because they were not there for the right reasons. I know that there is a lesson for me to understand and gradually, I just say, "Thank you for sharing, and I understand." And then, what happens, David, is that they kind of relax. And then I'm able to see their soul, and their hearts, and then they relax, and then I'm able to really intuitively pick up with them.
DB: Ah, ok. Now this is related to the next question, about the intuitions you receive. How can you tell if what you receive is correct? Does it ever happen that something you see is not correct, or are there degrees of correctness?
JH: I like that question, because sometimes, there could be something wrong. Occasionally, something inaccurate will come in, but I can sense that. And I will say to the client, "I'm sorry, just give me another minute, and let me go back and check on that. And I'm not afraid to say, "That could be wrong." But that doesn't really happen very often, because before the client turns up, I try to think about them. I meditate on them. I take my notes, so that when they come in, I'm ready. So it's really like a form of knowingness, and understanding.
DB: Ok. Now, you're obviously a great professional in this area. Have you noticed over the years that your talent is becoming better and better, or was it always this good? Was there a development there, or...
JH: Sometimes I feel I was better when I was younger! So I would say when you first start off, you're absolutely incredible. And I would say that I feel I'm equally good, but perhaps in a sense I'm better now, because there's a deeper understanding, and more knowledge coming. In the beginning, it was just little bits of information, but now it's in great depth.
DB: Ah, ok. Would that be because you are more open to it, or you've learned certain techniques to become more open, or...?
JH: Yes, I would say, it's the result of my meditations. I always get up about 3:30 or 4:00 in the morning, and I cleanse my mind by practicing Kriya yoga, and get it ready so it's really pure and open, so I would say it's better now as a result of many years of this practice.
DB: Ok, certain techniques. How many clients do you normally have in a day?
JH: Well, when I was younger, I used to have three or four, but nowadays, I try to keep it to one, so I can do a perfect job for that one person.
DB: That must be strenuous, to have three or four clients a day, with that type of work.
JH: Well, you know, when you're young, you can do many people. And I'd like to clarify. Sometimes I do big functions in Los Angeles. There might be three hundred people and I have to talk to about fifty to seventy if it's a long, long night like the Academy Awards where you stand, and you mix, and you mingle, and you've got one minute to say something very special to someone, and it has to have meaning; it has to be correct. And I think there, you get some incredible energy that comes from the divine, that carries you through that evening. And when you're at home doing private sessions, I think there's enough energy to do an incredible job for one or two people but then I stop at that a day. I pace myself.
DB: Do you do readings by phone?
JH: My practice is now worldwide over the phone, and private consultations.
DB: Do you ever have intuitions about the client after talking to that person? In other words, you have a client one day, and two days later, something comes into your mind about that person. Or do you close yourself off to that, in order to protect yourself after a session?
JH: Well, mostly, I try and give all the information in the session. Generally, I prepare the reading, I meditate, I get all the information, I deliver that information, and it feels right. We come to a conclusion at the end of the consultation. They feel at peace. Their heart is quiet. They feel ok, and I feel that I've done my best.
DB: So it doesn't happen to you that, I don't know, maybe some night you can't get to sleep because visions of all these different clients are going through your head and you can't get rid of them, or...
JH: No, not at all, because I do about two hours of preparation before a client comes in, and then when the session is done, whether they like it or not, I always say it's up to them what they do with the information; I'm not responsible. And it's just like a job, from 9 to 5: you go, you do your best, and then you leave, and it's the same with a consultation. I give them the information they require and they feel happy in the end, and I feel I've done my best.
DB: Now, the last question I think we've probably answered in passing through the others, but just to specify a little: How do you think your sessions can ideally most benefit your clients? In the best of all cases, on a really successful day, what's the ideal?
JH: Well, it's when they then write me emails, and they say they feel such a sense of relief, and they feel a kind of peace, and they've got back their self-worth, and they even tell me that now they can go ahead and make decisions. A lot of clients say, "That's what I really thought already, but I didn't have the courage. You gave me the courage, and you reinforced me so that I can move ahead and make change."
DB: That's great!
JH: Yes. What I offer is like a road map. We map it out, and it's entirely up to the client whether they travel that road or not, but they've got directions. They might listen to some tapes I give them, and they say, "Oh, my gosh! This helped me over really, really hard times!"
I had a client in Florida, for instance. You know, so many people in America have trouble with money. This client called me and said, "I've got no money. I've got to move, what do I do with the children?" And I could intuitively only let her know what I saw for her, and strengthen and encourage her to look at alternatives, to not be so panicked. Intuitively, very interesting information like initials, dates, times places where she could move, what she could do, came through, and I gave her all this basic information and then she had an alternative.
And they feel very grateful, and very thankful: the fear is gone. If I can get rid of the fear, it opens up their own psyche. They become their own psychic, and together with my information, they're able to change their life and feel good.
DB: So are you implying that fear is one of the things that blocks one's own psychic abilities?
JH: Yes, it is. Most of the people that come to me never dream of going to their immediate family for advice, or else their family know them too well.
You know something funny? At one time, when I had a little office in the valley, a very famous TV celebrity came in, along with his girlfriend. And I'll make you smile about the rich: they never pay in L.A. They never bring money, it's all complimentary for them. It's like you owe the movie stars and the wealthy people, and so you should do it for nothing. And you know what? I would like to say that sometimes, we need to give to these wealthy people. Because with this great gift that we have, there are times when God will whisper in my ear "Why not?" That is the law of love and giving. But the real people that help me to pay my bills and everything are just ordinary men and women that work from 9 to 5 every day.
DB: Judy, I thank you for this interview. Talking with you was a real pleasure!
JH: I thank you, David!
***
Judy Hevenly resides in Los Angeles, California. Her clairvoyance has helped many people throughout the world improve their lives at every level: mental, emotional, and spiritual.
Judy's forecasts have appeared in publications in many countries. Her clientele includes former Presidents, Royalty, Hollywood stars, and Heads of State. She has been a guest on a number of TV Shows including "Entertainment Tonight," "Geraldo", and the "Joan Rivers Show"; also, on many radio stations, such as BBC in London, CBS Radio in Los Angeles, and radio shows in Canada, Alaska, Hawaii, Hong Kong, Australia and Africa.
Judy is a natural clairvoyant, healer and mystic. She answers questions about career and money matters, soul mates, and past lives. In addition, she interprets dreams, dissolves creative blocks, and helps people obtain what they need in life.
More about Judy at her website, www.judyhevenly.com
Next interview: Sherri Calosso.
But first... Have you read "Seven Psychics"?
Imagine...
-You hand an old man a photo of someone unknown to him, and he proceeds to tell you all sorts of facts about the person: illnesses, character, personality - and without even looking at the photo!
- A young student of law with the "sixth sense", who is able to describe many details of your family's living room - even though she has never been to your country, and has never seen a photo of that room.
- A clairvoyant whom you have just met tells you the story of one of your past lives, containing details which bear a clear, yet eerie correspondence to your present-day life circumstances.
These were just three of the amazing experiences with psychics that I had over a period of fifteen years. "Seven Psychics - My Sojourn in the Realm of Clairvoyance" tells the full story of just what these individuals were able to reveal, using only their uncanny powers. In addition, you will learn how to evaluate apparent psychic occurrences to test their validity, and also, how to go about finding a true, reputable psychic to consult, so that you can avoid falling victim to the many fraudulent "fortune tellers" out there.
Many years ago, I was totally skeptical about claims of "psychic abilities" - that alleged "sixth sense" that allows certain individuals to see things about other people and their lives - past, present and even future - things that there is no "logical" way for them to know about.
Yet over a fifteen-year period, my disbelief gradually dissolved through encounters that I had with a number of true psychics.
"Seven Psychics - My Sojourn in the Realm of Clairvoyance" is the amazing story of my meetings with these gifted individuals: what they were able to reveal to me about myself, other people, and even my future. These experiences convinced me that clairvoyance is indeed not only possible, but very real - and can sometimes even be found in "normal" people like you or me, as is clearly shown in the book.
"Seven Psychics - My Sojourn in the Realm of Clairvoyance" is now available in a variety of digital formats.
Visit https://www.sevenpsychics.com now for more information.
And now, on to our next interview...
David Bolton: Getting to your clairvoyance now: when was it that you first noticed that you had some ability in this direction?
Sherri Calosso: I really honestly couldn't name it until a couple of years ago. I've always been very sensitive, and very in touch with people around me, and my surroundings, and have always done my own little rituals and things, and maybe had a few glimpses of the future, or predicted events, but really didn't think anything of it until about two years ago, when I picked up Debra Katz's book "You are Psychic". I was working in Malibu as a jeweler. I'm a jeweler by trade.
DB: Oh, that explains the lovely jewelry in your site.
SC: Yeah, I was selling four-carat diamonds to movie stars. I decided to take private training with her, and instantly, within the first class, I realized that, "wow, I have the gift of clairvoyance!" - which is the ability to see. I slowly started to develop all the other senses as well. My life started to make sense.
DB: In other words, it came through this class that you had with Debra.
SC: It really took form and shape through this course, but I was really ready for it, so yes, it did. I didn't go into the class going "Oh, I'm going to become a professional psychic". I went just for personal growth, along my spiritual path. The great thing was, I am psychic!
DB: What a revelation, huh?
SC:. Yeah, my life definitely changed very drastically in a very short amount of time once I started peeling off those layers.
DB: I can imagine! Did the other people in the class have similar experiences?
SC: Well, I did private training...
DB: Ah, ok.
SC: ...with Debra. We did it one-on-one by phone, once a week, for two hours. I was still working full time, so I enjoyed the private training because again, I was using it for personal growth, and it worked well for me. I did go on to do several group classes with her as well, and yes, the shifts in people were, you know, subtle to drastic.
DB: Did that depend on how intensively they did the exercises and their homework, or more on their inner abilities, that either were there strongly, or not?
SC: Dependent on the person?
DB: Yeah, dependent on the person. For example, some people have more musical talent, others have less. Did their success depend on that, or were some just lazy, and didn't do the exercises?
SC: Well, no, actually, I find that it really depends on your willingness to let go, of any expectations of what might come out of it. I think everybody has the ability to develop their psychic ability, because we are all psychic in some ways or another. I think anybody can really do it.
DB: So it's a question more of believing in yourself, and opening up?
SC: Yeah, believing in yourself. It's very personal work. Nobody else can make that decision for you, except yourself.
DB: This is interesting, because it implies there are some people that might indeed be rather highly psychic, but because of their beliefs that there is no such thing, it might be totally blocked. Could that be?
SC: Yeah, I think that is a possibility. I've seen that happen in classes, too. People come in saying "I don't know anything about this" and within an hour, it's like "wow!" They're seeing and hearing things beyond their wildest dreams.
DB: Right. Well, then without asking you to reveal exactly the techniques that Debra uses, could you give me a general idea? What kind of exercises do people do in order to awaken psychic gifts?
SC: Well, there are a couple of techniques that I use on a daily basis. One is a grounding technique, basically a meditation, learning how to ground yourself, so that you're really balanced and blending your spirit in your body, and running different energies: running an earth energy, and a cosmic energy. Also - I don't use this technique anymore, but it was really a platform to learn to own that psychic space - you can use a reading screen. You project a reading screen out in front of you, and place, say, a clear transparent rose in that reading space, and then on that you can drop people's names, or different areas or questions in it, and watch how that rose changes.
DB: You mean in your mind - a reading screen in your mind?
SC: Yes. So when I do readings, my eyes are closed. Some people prefer to read with their eyes open, but I find I go in, and it's so much easier for me to read with my eyes closed. So yeah, there are definitely techniques that will help you really own that space, and get to that place easier.
DB: Now, when you do a reading, you don't put yourself into a trance, or do you?
SC: I do go into a light trance, yes. Thankfully, I'm very aware of my surroundings as well, but I do go into a light trance. I feel different, vibrating maybe at a higher energy. When I come out, you know, sometimes I'm a little tired. Or, I can also be very energized after readings, too.
DB: Does that depend on your state on that day, or on the client?
SC: A little bit of both. Luckily, I've been really smart about learning how to disconnect. What I realize is, I'm actually just a conduit. I'm just holding a space for them to look at themselves, and so I really don't have to do any work. Whatever comes through, I let it come through, so I don't try really hard. When people first start out, some really clench and try hard, but it's best to just relax.
DB: That's the hard part!
SC: Yeah, that is the hard part. I think a lot of people really feel obligated to give the perfect answers, or to heal this person, or to solve all of their problems in one sitting, and that's just not always going to happen. It's really up to the person that's getting the reading. It's up to them to do the healing and to take what it is that we're saying to them. So I take myself out of that equation, and don't hold myself accountable for what happens after the reading, or the information that I give them.
DB: Well now, something you said a few minutes ago, about when you go into this light trance, and you reach a higher frequency of vibration. I want to ask you: what does that feel like physically?
SC: For me, it's a very peaceful feeling, very natural. Sometimes it almost feels like a warm hug, or I feel very loved.
DB: Do you hear anything, for example?
SC: Yeah, again it's depending on the readings. I'm clairvoyant, so I see things. I'm clairaudient, so I hear things. I'm clairsentient, so I feel things. I do work with my own spirit guides. I tend to use them to hold the space, and if somebody wants to know about their spirit guides, I will talk, I will ask for them to be present as well, so sometimes I will hear messages through guides. Other times, I will just hear words in general, and that could be coming from the person's subconscious. So it really depends on the questions that the people are asking. My readings tend to adapt to whatever their needs are.
DB: Right, ok. What are the most common questions from your clients when they come to you?
SC: Relationships.
DB: And money, and health?
SC: Yeah. Relationships with their families, their spouses, their children, boyfriend, girlfriend. I find that that is the single most-asked question. And money and jobs, their work space.
DB: Especially these days, I guess.
SC: Yeah, those are the top two. And then I would say a lot of people do want to know about their spiritual path as well, or also, about any spirit guides or angels. And then, another popular topic is maybe contacting someone who has passed on.
DB: Ah yes, ok.
SC: And it's funny. Sometimes it is about the boyfriend, or the child, or the job, but most of the time the reading ends up being about how the people themselves need to change in order to create a more balanced life.
DB: Very interesting.
SC: And that is what I find readings tend to be about.
DB: That's probably what they should be about.
SC: Relationships and money: those are the top two.
DB: Okay, so for example: somebody comes to you, and they want to know about relationships, but you notice that the main thing for them isn't really about a specific relationship. It's about something in them that perhaps should change. How do you subtly and discreetly get that across to them? Because I imagine some come to you, and they just want to know if they're going to get back with Frank, or whoever it is...
SC: Yeah...
DB: ...and you see that's not really the main point. So how do you manage to influence them so that they're open to what you have to say?
SC: Well, at the beginning of each reading, I always tell them, "This is about you. The universe will never give you any information that you cannot handle. You may not like it, but you'll be able to handle it. And if at any time, anything I say, you don't want to hear any more, feel free to let me know." I don't edit. I don't candy-coat. I say it how I see it. I say it in a very loving way, but I still transcribe whatever it is that I see to them. When it comes down to relationships, what I usually do is take a look at the person that's asking the question, and the relationship, the person who they are asking about, and I'll see how they interact, and from there, I'll decipher who it's about, and what's going on with that. And ultimately, the reading is about them, so it always comes back to them.
DB: This is interesting. Something you said before. You said you don't "candy-coat", on the one hand, and you also say that the universe will not give the person information they can't handle. So in other words, even if it's something really harsh, you feel that you can say it because if you receive it, it means they can handle it. Is that a correct interpretation?
SC: Yeah, absolutely.
DB: So you don't have to candy-coat, because you know that anything that comes to your mind, you can say, because you know they can handle it. I've never really thought of that type of connection before, but it's fascinating.
SC: Yeah, and I'm not there to decide what I should, or should not say, because if I don't say something, that could be the most important information that they need to hear at that time.
DB: So there's no censorship on your part.
SC: No, it's not up to me to censor it at all, because again, it might not mean something to me, but to them, it could be the most important aspect of the reading.
DB: That's interesting. I had always thought that maybe psychics really shouldn't say everything, because...
SC: Some psychics do believe that, but I don't.
DB: So you tell it like it is.
SC: Yeah, I tell it like it is!
DB: That gets us to the second question: the questions your clients might ask that you would refuse to answer. I guess there aren't any?
SC: No. Maybe if they wanted to commit a crime, or do something illegal, and they were asking about that, I might not be comfortable with it. But I've definitely answered some pretty off-the-wall questions, and it surprises me sometimes, when I don't think twice about the question they're asking, even though most people would think "That's an odd question!" Again, I'm not there to judge. I'm there to give whatever answers they need. And sometimes, the question opens up a whole new set of questions or a whole new platform to work from, so you never know.
DB: Well, this lack of judging on your part, which is very good for your work: can you also use that in other areas of your life, or is it sort of a double life you lead in that respect? In other words, we humans generally tend to judge. I don't mean necessarily to condemn, but we discern, we impose our moral views on certain things. But when you're working as a psychic, apparently you just receive the information and pass it on. Can you do that in other areas, when you're not working as a psychic?
SC: Yeah, absolutely. I definitely have a lot of compassion, and open-mindedness for people, and their differences. We never know where somebody is in their life, so I try not to judge. I mean, I'm sure I occasionally will make a judgment, but then, I'll turn it around, and ask why it is that I'm judging that person, and see if it's something related to me judging myself.
DB: Right, yeah.
SC: But I do have an open mind when it comes to people and all walks of life.
DB: Do you have different degrees of intuition, depending on the client?
SC: I don't know if it'd be differing degrees. I guess each reading can be different, depending on what the person's asking. Sometimes I'll see more pictures versus hearing things; sometimes I'll use my medium-ship: maybe a guide will come through, and so I will start giving messages from them. If the message is completely from them, I'll notice a change in my voice, and the way I feel. I feel like it's coming from a higher place, or a particular guide. I once was working with a woman, and she wanted to - she had several different things going on - but she also wanted to know if she had any guides, and I kept seeing Gandhi, and I thought "All right, this is interesting!" And so I ended up talking to him, and he was talking through me, and it's was probably one of the best experiences I've had. I thanked her at the end of the reading, because I got to feel what it was to feel unconditional love, and to feel what it felt like to be Gandhi, and that was really exciting!
DB: Does every person have guides? I mean, do some people have one guide, some two, some three? Are there people who don't have any guides?
SC: I believe we all have guides, and some guides change over time. There are some that will stay with people their whole lives, but I think a lot of the time, guides will come and go as they're needed, as each person progresses.
DB: That's interesting!
SC: I work with a lot of guides. I don't rely on them, but I open myself up to them, just so I can feel all the different energies, and let the different guides out there know that I'm receptive to getting messages from them.
DB: Are there some clients that you get more information from, and some less, depending on the question?
SC: I can only read what the person allows me to. They have to be open to it. Some people, even though they are coming to me for a psychic reading - and they may have very personal questions - they're still maybe not open to hearing it, so sometimes I won't be able to see a full picture, or maybe it will be a little more difficult to read a certain area of their life because either they're closed off to it themselves, or they really don't want to know the answer. And then, some people are just open books. I mean, I can see them naked, I can see them in all these different situations. And so I am always very thankful at the end of readings. I always thank people for letting me into their lives, and letting me read them. I never feel blocked, like "I can't do this!", but I will sometimes find it challenging if somebody is not really open to hearing what it is that I have to say. And like I said, I'm not there to please everybody. If somebody comes to me, and the first thing they say is "I just want to see rainbows and sunshine", I think "Oh my! This is going to be a difficult reading", because a lot of time, those people will have a lot of stuff going on that they're not reading to look at.
DB: What percentage of clients is that - the ones who want to see the rainbows only?
SC: You know, it's actually very small. Surprisingly, I've been very lucky. Most of the people I've gotten to read have been open books, which always amazes me. It's so amazing when I can connect with others on such a deep level, where they feel comfortable and safe, with me giving them this information, and then talking about subjects that are sensitive.
DB: Of course. Now, about how it feels when you get an intuition. I think we talked about that before, how the visions come. You mentioned pictures, visions, words on the board, with the rose...
SC: In the beginning, when I was first starting to do readings on people, I would see so many pictures. It would be as though a movie were playing in my head, and I would just have to talk through these pictures. Now, I find that it's a combination of seeing pictures, feelings, and getting messages, and my readings have really become less focused on the pictures I'm seeing, and more on feeling messages.
DB: Ok, yeah.
SC: I might start off seeing a particular thing, and work with it, and ask it questions, and then it opens up to a full story of what's going on.
DB: How can you tell if an intuition is correct, and are there degrees of that? Are there some things you feel, and know "This is right on the mark", and for other things, you think "Well, this is a maybe", or isn't it like that?
SC: I'm not sure if it's a matter of being correct. I tend to try to read the energy around the situation. Again, we have free will, so we have the ability to take this information and do what it is that we want; it's not ever concrete. I give time frames, but I won't ever try to give exact dates, or addresses, or things like that. I think that there are different techniques that I could develop where I could be more right on with that stuff. But I definitely stay away from saying "This is exactly when that's going to happen". And again, it's not about being correct. You know, if people give me two situations, I say, "Well, this is the energy around this situation. If you were to choose to follow this path, this could be what you're up against. If you were to choose this other path, this is the energy around it, and this is what you could be up against."
So, I really try and give people options, of what they want to accomplish, instead of saying "You have to do this". So again, it's really up to the person how they want to interpret and take the information that I give them. I don't try and be: "This is the way it is, this is correct, what I say is what it is." Because, you know, there are so many factors that go on. And I could read somebody, and then another psychic could read somebody, and get completely different information, which I think is really wonderful, because we're able to tap into so many aspects of people's lives. Although you will see that most of the time when you have several people reading one person, there will be a common base that people will touch on, and very similar things, too.
DB: Right. Do you have intuitions about a client after talking to that person? In other words, could it be that you wake up the next morning, and think "Oh, wait a minute! Here's some other vision pertaining to that person!" Or do you kind of cut off after the sessions?
SC: I cut off after the sessions. It's very important. I don't walk around with my third eye open. It's not a party trick. I am able to get into that space very quickly, but I turn it on and off. I don't want to read people all day long. Also, it's kind of an invasion of privacy, too, to walk around reading people. Also, I just don't want that outside influence. I try and disconnect from a person. Sometimes I will find, if I'm thinking about them more, their situation, or just in general their name pops up, then I know that I need to re-ground, and cut off the communication again.
DB: That's a sign of the professional, I would say. My sister, for example, has always had psychic ability, but she's never been trained in it, and one of her problems was that she would be picking up all this information from people, and it was really hard to deal with sometimes.
SC: And I think that that's something that you really need to teach yourself when you're first starting out: how to disconnect from the people that you are reading. For me, again, it's very easy, because I go into it without judgment. I go into it knowing I am just a conduit. I am holding the space; this has nothing to do with me. There may be some matching pictures, but for the most part, this is about them, and I don't really need to be involved in their life. I am not trying to be their counselor, so it's easy for me to disconnect, and let it go.
DB: That's good.
SC: Although sometimes it's like channeling Gandhi. That was a really nice experience, so I thought I'd like to stay in that space a little bit longer. But if that's the case, then I will disconnect, and work with the guides on my own.
DB: Well, let me ask you about that, about the Gandhi experience. Without it coming from a client - you say Gandhi was one of that person's spiritual guides - could you concentrate on a person such as Gandhi, and somehow connect to him, independently of a client?
Download this book for your ebook reader.
(Pages 1-26 show above.)